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koltipelto
8 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Possible conflict with Dropbox and Trend Micro (Dropbox freezing)
I have dropbox business, I will not say every computer, but half of the company's computers are crashing.
At first I thought it could be a driver, a virus, or even a windows 10 error. I got to ...
- 8 years ago
Hi Jane, thanks for your reply. I've simply turned off the selective sync feature and that has resolved the issue. If I have time, I'll turn it back on and see if the problem returns.
Thanks. - 7 years ago
I would like to update that the problem resolved on our side now and here is the steps taken.
- Clean up the registry
- Uninstall and Install back Dropbox
- Uninstall and Install back Worry Free Business Security
------- Added Dropbox program files path in Approved List (just in case)
Also device speed improved quite a bit. We did not reinstall the windows.
Environment
- Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
- Worry Free Business Security Services (Trend Micro)
I hope it helps to someone.
- 7 years ago
The issue has been resolved by Trend Micro and we have confirmed that the Trend Micro fix worked and no longer have a freeze on start when Dropbox is set to run at startup as well. For reference, the Virus Pattern that contains the fix is 14.287.00.
Thanks to all of the users that reported this!
Jane
Dropbox Staff
8 years agoHey dflord & JasonWolfgang, I'd just like to follow-up on the matter, has this been resolved for you?
In case you need further assistance, I’d recommend logging a ticket with our team, so as to have a closer look at your account details & send over the most appropriate next steps.
Once you do, please let me know a ticket ID in your reply, so that I search up your request internally on our system and make sure a team members works with you as closely as possible.
Thanks in advance & I'll be awaiting your next message, so that we work on that together!
dflord
8 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Hi Jane, thanks for your reply. I've simply turned off the selective sync feature and that has resolved the issue. If I have time, I'll turn it back on and see if the problem returns.
Thanks.
- Jane8 years ago
Dropbox Staff
I appreciate your update here with the fix that worked for you dflord, I’ve made sure to accept your last reply as a Solution, so that other users experiencing the same behavior check it in the future!Glad to hear that you got this sorted, though I’ll also be here in case you need further assistance, so please don’t hesitate to reach back out to me at any time. Happy Friday! :slight_smile: - DonnyGold8 years agoNew member | Level 2We run 5 business’s, retail, and connect vital data through Dropbox. All new high end towers windows 10 in each location. Constant crashing and/or screen freezing. Turned off Dropbox Sync, Autostart and Exited program. It’s been 24 hrs without any issue. We had to restart computers every 20-30 minutes before.
- CodyzzZ8 years agoNew member | Level 2
I have a similar issue on Windows 10 where whenever I open a dropbox URL it crashes my chrome browser, killing any opened tabs. Tried everything including clearing cache and turning off extensions, to no avail. Works fine on other browsers but I default to Chrome so it is quite annoying. Turned off selective sync as you suggested and dropbox URL on Chrome works fine now. Disappointed at dropbox, but big thanks for your help.
- cmbcmbcmb7 years agoNew member | Level 2
Has anyone found more of a solution to this other than just disabling the selective sync feature? This isn't an option for those of us with hard drives smaller than the dropbox storage. For instance, we have well nearly 1 TB of data yet we're using Surface Pros with only 512 GB of storage. Its almost sounding like we have no choice but just to either tolerate the crashes or give up using dropbox.
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
I’d like to check back on the possible causes with you & we’ll take it from there, so as to send you the most relevant next troubleshooting steps.In order to follow-up with you as closely as possible, could you include some more details on the behavior you’re experiencing in your next reply?- Firstly, are you running the latest Dropbox on your Surface (47.4.74)?
- I’d appreciate a step-by-step description of what’s happening in your next message (as well as any troubleshooting you’ve done on your own), so as to make sure to reproduce with you and check the results I’m getting.
Once I have this info, I’d happily analyze the case in more depth. Happy Friday & thanks again! - cmbcmbcmb7 years agoNew member | Level 2
Hello. Yes, I'm running the latest version (47.4.74).
Troubleshooting... At first, I believed it to be a Windows isuse, so I re-installed Win 10. Same issue immediately started occurring once I installed Dropbox and started using Selective Sync. There's no way for me to not use that as I have a 512 GB Surface Pro but more than that much data in dropbox. With Dropbox enabled, my machine is actively crashing to BSOD 1 to 2 times PER HOUR. As soon as I exit dropbox/stop the service, no issues. The only thing I can really do is leave Dropbox off until I'm going to head to bed, turn it on, and hope it gets the files backed up before crashing because each morning I come back to my machine, I have the BSOD reboot screen staring at me.
Honestly, if there is no solution to this, which I haven't so far been able to find online, there's really no choice but to switch to an alternative cloud provider who's software doesn't crash on Win 10. I already wasted 2+ days having to reformat and setup the machine, and, at the rate its going, its going to take a week or two to get the data back on my machine given its crashing any time I have Dropbox turned on. I really like Dropbox, been using it for a while, but if its not realiable, its basically become useless.
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Thanks for providing the additional details here cmbcmbcmb, I appreciate your ongoing cooperation & I understand that you’d like hands-on assistance from this point forward!I’d suggest continuing this discussion via email & for that reason I’ve made sure to create a Support Request on our system on your behalf, so as to focus on the issue in question & move forward together. Whenever you find some time, please check your inbox for my email & I’ll make sure to promptly follow-up with you from where we’ve left off here.Thanks again & I’m wishing you a wonderful week ahead! - heimburg7 years agoNew member | Level 2Wanted to add some info on this for the developers...
We're also experiencing freeze-ups with our business plan. We use selective sync and we have a very large number of files (a million or so). The crashes started a few months ago, and I'm not sure what the impetus was. It took a long time to figure out our different crashes on different machines were caused by dropbox.
Sometimes the mouse cursor (and the rest of the machine) will freeze up for a few seconds. And sometimes that freeze-up becomes permanent, requiring a hard-reboot to fix the crash.
Recently we've found that that reducing Max CPU Usage from 100% to 85% fixes the freeze ups. (This is an advanced Power Plan option -- in control panel, power options, edit the power plan, then Change advanced power settings, and find the Processor power management options.)
This workaround has fixed the problem on several machines, and I can't really fathom why. We're game developers so we have lots of hardware on hand, and we had this problem with both AMD and Intel CPUs, and several kinds of motherboards. (None overclocked, and mostly all new hardware.) So it seems unlikely to be a hardware-specific problem, but the crashes leave no obviously-useful information in the event log, so it doesn't seem like a driver is crashing either.
Can this info be passed along to the developers? This is a pretty severe bug, and I'm hoping we can offer a clue for them. Keeping our CPUs capped isn't a permanently viable answer, although it works for now. - Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Thanks for posting us here on the matter heimburg, I understand that you’d like some assistance on this matter, as this has been affecting your team & you’ve already done some troubleshooting on your own.I understand your concern & for that reason I’ve made sure to reach out to you directly via email (on the email address connected to your Forum profile), since this is an account-specific inquiry that needs to be addressed by a specialized team member via our Official Support channel.At your convenience, please check your inbox for my latest message and let me know here if you have any issues locating it. Once you get back to me, I’ll make sure to redirect your request to the appropriate team, who’ll answer any account-specific sensitive questions you may have.Thanks again & I’ll be awaiting your next email, so as to move forward on the matter together. Welcome to our Forum! - Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
We are also having this problem with a couple of machines. They have the latest Win10 updates, latest hardware updates including BIOS.
If Dropbox is enabled for startup, the computer will freeze within a few minutes. If it is disabled, the computer performs as expected and then Dropbox can be started manually.
Thanks for the input heimburg - this provides more info on what we've seen and thanks to this thread I'll be checking selective sync on these computers.
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hey Rob21, thanks for posting us here regarding the issue you’ve experienced on your desktop, I’ll do my best to work with you towards a fix!Of course, applying Selective sync for the content you’d like to keep on your account online (though don’t necessarily need locally) would be a great starting point, though I’d rather further advise after checking your account details.As I’d like to help you on the matter as much as possible, I’ve made sure to run a search on our system on my end, I’ve located your newest open ticket & I’ve made sure to reply to you there. This way, I’ll send you the most appropriate next steps based on the info I have on my tools & help you reach a resolution as quickly as possible.Whenever you find some time, please check your inbox for my email & I’ll make sure to promptly follow-up with you from where we’ve left off here.Thanks again & I’ll be awaiting your next email, so as to move forward on the matter together! - binary7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I am having the same issue and it is Windows 10 with latest update and pretty reasonable specification. I have been working on from 3-4 days and once disabled the Dropbox from Start Up then the laptop is fine otherwise it freezes in a minute from startup. You do not get chance to do anything.
Tried all the steps but no real luck, even reducing the processory from 100% to 85% but issue remains.
so really waiting to get this resolved or we might have to use ulternate solutions.
- Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
Where did you turn off selective sync?
In the desktop client I have Smart Sync and Selective Sync. We use Smart Sync and there is a checkbox for it. Selective Sync only has a list of folders to sync to this computer and I have "select all" ticked.
In the admin console I can't find Selective Sync, only Smart Sync.
I now have two computers in my organisation three in one client's and one in another client that freeze and are solved by disabling Dropbox on boot.
Edit: one machine in my org is Windows 7...
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hello again, I hope my message finds you well!Initially, it’s my understanding, that binary refers to dflord’s Solution in the first page Rob21. Can you please let me know if I'm right in my assumption binary?Following, because I understand that you'd need further assistance on this issue binary, I’ve made sure to run a search on our system on my end & I’ve located your open ticket. In order to expedite matters, I’ve raised your support priority internally & I’ve notified my colleague handling the issue on your comments here.Please check your inbox for their latest message & include all relevant info on that discussion, so as to check your account info based on the details we have on our tools.Rest assured that you’re in safe hands from now on & I hope this gets resolved soon for you. Welcome to our Dropbox Community! - Johnwho927 years agoNew member | Level 2
I'm having the same issue on a customers PC i disabled it from startup and manually opening it later and now the computer isnt freezing.
not an ideal solution but atleast they can use the computer :upside_down:
Using Windows 10, Trend Micro AV - binary7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
You are right Jane, after gone through this Blog and as it says "Solved" but did not help me at all. In our case it was not Windows latest Feature update 1803 as this started happening before.
In our case, the anti-virus ie Worry Free Business Security Services (Trend Micro) and Dropbox conflicting to a level that its making the device to freeze. Either disabled the Dropbox from Startup or Uninstallation of Trend help resolved the probelm straight.
I will be reinstalling the Trend Again and see if it helps.
- Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
Interesting. All of the problems we are having include Trend Micro WFBS-Services and Dropbox. The workaround is to disable Dropbox on startup and manually start a minute or two later.
- binary7 years agoHelpful | Level 6Hi Rob21,
Starting manually after a minute or two later does not help as in our instance it was still freezing. And very hard to expect from the end-user to do it. - Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
Yes - understand that we can't rely on end users.
I'm going to work at this from both ends and have started communication with Trend Micro.
- binary7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I would like to update that the problem resolved on our side now and here is the steps taken.
- Clean up the registry
- Uninstall and Install back Dropbox
- Uninstall and Install back Worry Free Business Security
------- Added Dropbox program files path in Approved List (just in case)
Also device speed improved quite a bit. We did not reinstall the windows.
Environment
- Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
- Worry Free Business Security Services (Trend Micro)
I hope it helps to someone.
- Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
Thanks. What did you use to clean the registry?
- binary7 years agoHelpful | Level 6CC Cleaner.
But I understand it is more to do with Trend Micro. - Rob217 years agoExplorer | Level 3
OK - will try on an affected machine.
Strange that one of the laptops is brand new and has only just had both Dropbox and Trend Micro WFBS installed. The registry should be clean.
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Thanks to all for your prompt updates on the matter here, it was really helpful as it seems that there’s a software conflict that’s been affecting your devices’ performance.I’ve made a note of all your comments & troubleshooting steps & I’v also made sure to Accept binary's latest reply as a Solution, since he’s mentioned that the set of steps he’s posted above has worked for him this time.Additionally, as we’re working on that together on our email correspondence Rob21, please check your inbox for my latest message at your convenience & let me know here if you have any issues locating it.Once again, I appreciate your valuable input here! - Ross_S7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hi folks,
I just wanted to post here to acknowledge that we are looking into a possible conflict with Trend Micro. I'll reach out to a few of you via email with extra debugging steps.
Many thanks for spotting the issue!
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